Pliska - 100 years of archaeological excavations
R. Rashev, Ya. Dimitrov
 
Comments from cybalist, an Indo-European forum, on the name of Pliska
 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24571

From: "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...>
Date: Wed Jul 16, 2003  11:41 am
Subject: RE: [tied] Re: Old Bulgarian -- Krivichian toponymic parallels

. . .
> The name 'Pliska' is Slavic in origin. According to the linguists it
> is cognate with the Old Russian word 'pleso', 'pljos', meaning a
> lake, a swamp.

A connection to Old Russian <plesU>, Russian <plës>, Ukr. <pléso> '',
Czech, Slovak <pleso> (< *plesU 'flat and shallow part of a river; still
waters' < PIE *pleth2-s- 'flat') is highly improbable (nearly
impossible, since it would require a quirky metathesis of otherwise
unattested reflex of zero grade *-Il- > *-lI-, which would be normal in
Germanic, less common in Baltic and very rare in Slavic).

> Even now, there is a small town
> called Pliskov in Central Ukraine, in the Vinicka district.

If it's indeed <Pliskov> (not <Plyskov>), then it directly supports my
etymology (belonging to the same etymon as *PlIskova (Pliska) and
<PlIskovU>), since it can only continue earlier *Ple^skovU < *ple^sk-
(rather than *ples-).

Sergei


http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24579

From: george knysh <gknysh@...>
Date: Wed Jul 16, 2003  2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Old Bulgarian -- Krivichian toponymic parallels

. . .
> Even now, there is a small town
> called Pliskov in Central Ukraine, in the Vinicka district. This town
> is situated at the border between two archaeological cultures of the
> VI-VII c. AD, which are connected with the early Slavs - the
> Penkovo and the Prague-Korchak.

***** GK: There might be more on this in the "Istorija
Mist i Sil Ukr.RSR== Vinnyts'ka Oblast'" (a 26-volume
Encyclopaedia on the towns and villages of Ukraine).
I've consulted the still useful Ukrainian Soviet
Encyclopaedia. The village of PLYSKIV, located in the
easternmost part of the Vinnyts'ka region, is related
there to the "plyska", a sparrow-like bird
(motacilla).*****


An earlier message:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/24550

From: "Sergejus Tarasovas" <S.Tarasovas@...>
Date: Tue Jul 15, 2003  5:40 pm
Subject: Old Bulgarian -- Krivichian toponymic parallels

>The Slavic names of
> even the first Bulgar capitals - Pliska (Pl&skova, assuming it is
> Slavic)

Cf. Old Russian (Northern Krivichian) center <PlIskovU> (<*plIs(k)- ~
*ple^s(k)- 'bald'), now <Pskov>.

Sergei


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